Impetous Charge and Potential Charge

When a group of impetuous units is making a potential charge at what point is the frenzy test made? A group of impetuous CP declare a potential charge on two CL. The CL can choose to evade. Is the frenzy test made before the evade declaration or afterwards?

I think the answer to this is that under 5.10.2 the CP would declare a potential charge. not a charge . As 5.8 says when a group of impetuous troops declares a charge .. etc. So at the point the cp declares a "potential" charge it is not declaring a charge hence the frenzy test is taken after the cl declares to evade and presumable tests as if it passes the potential charge becomes a movement.

You are probably correct. It would nice if this was explicitly spoken mentioned in the rules.

With the above said, it seems to me that a case could be made that the decision of the CL to evade would be influenced by the character of the charge, a single unit or a wall (ie. group) of charging knights.

I think this will something need an official clarification. I am working at a sheet with errata and clarification and this will be included. I need to make some extra thought on this.

Ok, here the clarification.

A potential charge is at all effects a Charge declaration (5.10.2) so Impetuous troops must take the Frenzy Test.
After the potential charge declaration, the target must declare if it evades or not.
If it evades (succesfully) the Frenzy Test should not be required unless the Group can contact in the process some other opponents. In case it is taken after the evasion test.

I thought about your ruling Lorenzo and I think it should be the other way. The Frenzy Test should come before the decision to evade. The reason I say this is because the Frenzy Test is a test to see if the player can charge his group as one formation or must charge by individual units. If the Frenzy Test is failed then the charge must be done unit by unit. The first unit then begins its charge and it seems to me it is that this point that evader should be able to decide what to do.

well, the group is moving to charge, declaration done. Only at the end you see if the charge was somewhat organized. It is the same philosophy of the "march". You see if the troops are disordered at the end of the manouvre.

Seen from the evadong troops you see a mass trying to charge you. You have to issue the order to evade to your men in time, not when you see the white in their eyes and could be late.