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Post by Sun of York Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:31 am

Another thing that arose in today's game. We assumed that a unit needs to rally from disorder regardless of the cause. So just leaving bad going doesn't remove disorder (I think our uncertainly comes from other rules we've played).
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Post by Gaius Cassius Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:50 am

Correct. At the beginning of the activation, a unit that is disordered rolls its DT. Assuming it passes the test it can then move and if it completely exits the disordering terrain it ends its move in good order.
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Post by Sun of York Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:29 am

Thanks.

I've also learnt something. I didn't appreciate you could rally while disordered due to terrain. It is only the moving that causes disorder. This is good as it means, with luck, you can back out units that are able to move backwards, e.g. CL.
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Post by Zippee Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:00 pm

Actually a unit that is disordered can always move - it just can't move more than once, so it doesn't have to pass a DT at all.

It may take it's free Rally DT but unless it can leave the terrain by the limits listed it would be disordered as soon as it moves, as GC says.

The confusing bit is after Difficult Going - "Leaving this ground does not lead to disorder. . ."

Now BUA are Difficult Going right - so compare with the BUA rules - "The occupying unit can abandon a BUA at any time, and is placed in disorder, next to one side. . ." WTF?

I presume this applies only if you've "Occupied" the BUA by passing a DT - can you pass a DT, not occupy and then move out without disorder? It's all a bit confusing Smile



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Post by Sun of York Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:52 am

I'm yet to have a game using a BUA.

There are a number of movements that are unavailable to disordered units. Now that I know I can rally while in disordering terrain I will have a bit more flexibility.

Loving these rules, but I'm still learning and no rules are perfect
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Post by Tartty Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:37 am

Sun of York wrote:I'm yet to have a game using a BUA.

yep I can't remember the last time we played with a BUA
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Post by almogavari Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:41 am

so..if you leave a diffickult terrain while disordered with no test...and ending up in good terrain ..

Then

1.-YOU ARE NOT DISORDERED as you recover automatically when leaving bad terrain ?
OR
2.- You ARE DISORDERED?because ylu did not test and yous D status keeps still ??

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Post by Sun of York Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:22 am

If you are disordered you need to rally. Your point 2.

The rule is that "Leaving this ground does not lead to disorder. . .". In other words it does not provide a free rally, but rather that it does not cause further disorder. I would also think the distance to be covered in leaving the difficult terrain would also be a factor when considering "leaving". I felt it means leaving from the edge of the terrain.
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Post by dadiepiombo Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:50 pm

aslo when you leave terrain always consider that your are in terrain untill at least half of the base is in.
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