PBW at engaged unit

A query arose in recent game when a unit with PBW charged into existing melee so insigates the melee with itself as support. Couldn't fire PBW's as target engaged in melee and as this is 1st contact had now lost that option for rest of battle. Gave it instead the +1 bouus in melee. Assume the PBW clarification on free download 'how to use available lists with impetus 2' replaces all of last para 6.6 page 39 so that the +1 bonus is given on all subsquent rounds not just 1st rounds. Is this how you play it?Eric
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It addition some players felt that 2nd para of 6.1.3 ,bearing in mind the heading 'Target engaged in melee' could be taken to override the 1st para and allow reinforcing unit to fire PBW's. Assume thats not the case and its just giving the green light to 6.6 section on PBW's.

You have the +1 bonus (a melee bonus, so compatible with the fact that target is already engaged in melee) untile the Unit is Exhausted.

Just to be clear, does the +1 melee bonus apply in the very first melee, right after the pila/pbw are thrown?

No if pilum thrown thats it all subsequent rounds or fresh melees gets the+1 bonus until exhausted whether it is main or support unit this is the point Lorenzo cleared up that the errata does not restrict it to just main unit.

PBW can fire into a preexisting melee since it is a hybrid shooting/melee weapon with its own rules. Lorenzo clarified this a while back on the Forum.

https://impetus.darkbb.com/t1256-pilums-pbw-s

The +1 bonus for PBW is included in the first round of melee.

Thanks for the link Gaius so that's clear can use PBW when charging into existing melee. So if defending unit is hit and because of melee losses/poor CT is destroyed presumably the original attacking unit plus the new support can both pursue. Does seem a bit strange that a unit in existing melee can be destroyed in this way without rolling melee die, wouldn't have happened if firing PBW die weren't thrown separately but just added to the normal melee die, just a thought . Lorenzo hasn't contradicted the way we played it or our interpretation of the Errata/last para page 39 and his answer seemed to convey we were correct but can see that this is quite clearly at odds with the reply on the link you gave me.

When you say +1 bonus for PBW in the 1st round of melee. It says in rules last para page 39 'whenever there is new contact' we interpret 'new' as after the 1st contact so not applicable to melee after PBW thrown. Is this how you play it.

That's exactly why I was questioning whether the +1 bonus applies to the 1st round of melee, immediately after launching the pila/PBW--the language in rule 6.6 that states "(whenever there is new contact)."

ejc wrote:Thanks for the link Gaius so that's clear can use PBW when charging into
When you say +1 bonus for PBW in the 1st round of melee. It says in rules last para page 39 'whenever there is new contact' we interpret 'new' as after the 1st contact so not applicable to melee after PBW thrown. Is this how you play it.

You are correct. We have been playing incorrectly in our group (adding it in every round of melee.) It is only on first contact. Thanks for noticing this. I agree with you that that the +1 shouldn't count on the first round of melee when the PBW dice are thrown but that is not what Lorenzo ruled. It is possible I have misunderstood him or perhaps he has rethought this issue out.