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Post by archibald the grim Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:54 pm

This is just a stab and is based on the actual units that took part in the invasion of England. Obviously there were no battles worth mentioning in England.

I think that the Baroque Points System page has a mistake and that there should be a colon after the word Mounted for Troops with Advantages. If I am wrong then all these Horse units should cost 2 points more than I have said.

I assume that VBU reflects strength in numbers of units. My units had been built and based for League Of Augsburg's rules and in rebasing them I found some bits left over. That is why some units have a generous VBU of more than 6. I had to bunch some smaller Horse units together.

I have not delved into Weapons and Specials.

So, here goes for the Horse:

Williamite:

1 unit GA; Move 2, VBU 6, Impetus 3, Discipline A. With Pistol/Carbine Cost 58 pts.
6 units GA; Move 2, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline C. With Pistol/Carbine. Cost 40 pts each.
2 units DR; Move 2, VBU 5, Impetus 1, Discipline B. Pistol/Carbine. 41 points each.
1 unit DR: Move 2, VBU 5, Impetus 1, Discipline C. Pistol/Carbine. 36 points.

English Army:

1 unit GA; Move 2S, VBU 8, Impetus 3, Discipline A. Cuirass. Pistol/Carbine. 79 pts.
2 units GA; Move 2, VBU 7, Impetus 3, Discipline A. Pistol/Carbine. 66 pts each.
3 units GA; Move 2, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline B. Pistol/Carbine. 49 pts each.
3 units GA; Move 2, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline C. Pistol/Carbine. 44 pts each.
1 unit DR; Move 2, VBU 7, Impetus 1, Discipline C. Pistol/Carbine. 52 pts.


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Post by archibald the grim Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:27 pm

I should have added the possibility of a couple more Horse:

1-2 GA; Move 2, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline C. Carbine/Pistol. Cost 44 pts each.

As for James's Infantry, here are my thoughts:

2x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 1, Discipline B. Musket. No shooting modifier. Cost 60 pts each. (Fusiliers and Prince George)
2x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 3, Discipline A. Musket. SM 1. Cost 69 pts each. (Guards, Royal Regt)
3x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline A, Musket. SM 1. Cost 67 pts each. (Queen Dowager, Holland, Queen Consort)
2x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 1, Discipline B, Musket. SM 1. Cost 58 pts each.
6x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 1, Discipline B, Musket. SM 2. Cost 56 pts each.
1-7 Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 0, Discipline C, Musket. SM 3. Cost 49 pts each. (units raised in 1688)
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Post by archibald the grim Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:51 pm

The Dutch infantry:

4x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 3, Discipline A, Muskets, SM1. Cost 69 pts each.
10x Move 1, VBU 6, Impetus 2, Discipline B, Muskets, SM 1. Cost 60 pts each.

I was thinking about the Leadership issue. This seems likely to be the English army's biggest problem- defection of key leaders and fear of betrayal. How about they cannot go up a level on a double 6 but instead go down a level as well as on a double 1? Another option instead is to say they cannot have a leader above Reliable rating.
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