Beta list - Later Hebrew needs an errata

Hi - just checking the Later Hebrew \ Israelite list, and noticed a bit of an error. It relates to the note allowing updates of one or more CGL to VBU 5 - this should only be the generals chariots - basically Solomon had a lot of chariotry but they were not well maintained or handled, so max VBU4 except for the Generals who could be VBU 5. David only had about 50 Chariots max but he seems to have known how to use them so he can have VBU 5

And with hindsight 2-4 slingers is nowhere near enough - should probably be double that

time ago I was considering to upgrade standard chariots to VBU=5. I feel that with VBU=4 they are very poor.
I suppose this was the results of those thoughs.

Now I know that in Extra 1 many chariots are rated as VBU 4, but Extra 1 is the first supplement I want to make a second edition.

So I take occasion of this post to ask you what you think about.

I suppose it depends how much you want the rules to play cross period. Personally I would leave the chariots as they are - the best at VBU5 and the rest at VBU4, otherwise you will have "standard" chariots being as good - and possibly better depending on weaponry, than the cavalry that replaced them.

VBU 4 is very poor IF the opposition are better - I think the trick is to keep the VBUs of all biblical troops under check - no VBU 6s anywhere if possible

well itis clear that everybody want their army to be enough competitive. This is why we produce the 70% of the thread in this forum.
The increase of VBU is not necessary the key of course, but the rules must play across the period in some way.

True - but if you increase the chariots to VBU 5 "to be competitive" you need to increase the Greek & Persian Cav to 6 and then the ...............

yes, I know this is no the key. Just wanted some feedback from those who use chariots (if any does)

I use them - shrug - they are about right as they are

which army?

Ancient Brits - I have 4 or 5?? I was planning a "real" biblical era one - hense my interest in the Hebrew

The biggest problem is the half move thing but I can live with that

Yes nothing to change with the chariot rules they're great as they are. I play chariots a lot ( NKE ) and normally up agains't Hittites they're always good close games lots of fun. The 'stationary chariots' removal way back helped to open up things...that was a good change.    The half move thing makes it tricky sometimes but as Cyrus says I can live with that also....it is as at should be with chariots and makes a nice point of difference.

Also intend to take my Egyptians in the next comp in July probably not a particularly competitive army but they should give a reasonable account of themselves also

I used 2 chariots in a Persian army recently, and it was a blast with the rules as is. Although I wouldn't say one experience with them is enough for a full opinion ... lol.

I agree with Tarty. Leave them as they are.

I have Mycenaeans, Assyrians and Early Irish, all heavy with chariots.

Yes, I like chariots. A lot. I may not win a huge amount with them but I love them.

We pretty much have three types of Light Chariots - "normal" ones VBU 4 or good ones VBU 5 often a General and both with or without Various Weapons or VBU 6 but no missile fire - when you combine that with differing Impetus values thats a lot of options for list building. I would not like to see VBU 5 become the baseline