Accumulation of Disorder and Permanent Losses in Melee

Hello,

Our group of players is currently having an hesitation about how to apply the losses due to accumulation of disorder in melee: do all units taking a cohesion test receive an additional loss dut to accumulation of disorder, or only the units which pass their cohesion test ?

We found indeed both interpretations possible, given that:

* In 6.2 (Cohesion test for shooting), it is stated that every unit is disordered after the test, regardless of the result. However, the example on p.37 where a unit fails its cohesion test doesn't apply an additionnal loss for accumulation of disorder. Moreover, such losses for accumulation of disorder are only mentioned in 6.2.1 in the "Effects of test passed". So it seems clear that for shooting, there is no loss for accumulation of disorder for a unit that fails its cohesion test.

* But for melee, we have 2 ways of reading the rules:

- Solution A°) : 7.7 tells to roll cohesion test as in 6.2 (btw including 6.2.1 on tests passed), so, as for shooting, accumulation of disorder applies only to units which pass their cohesion test, not the ones who fail. So melee and shooting should be treated in the same way.

- Solution B°) : But 7.7.1 tells us that a unit that is disordered a second time in melee (i.e., according to 6.2, all units that had to take a test regardless of the result) also takes a loss. As this paragraph doesn't tell anything about passing or failing the test (unlike 6.2.1), all units should take the loss regarless of the result of the test. This would make a difference between shooting and melee that could be explained by the greater fatigue and danger of the second situation.

Which solution would be the correct reading? Should melee and shooting be treated in the same way or differently?

Thanks in advance for your help !

In short:

Any unit that is not already disordered prior to taking a Cohesion Test, that passes that test becomes disordered.

Any unit that is already disordered prior to taking a Cohesion Test, that passes that test takes a loss instead.

There is no difference between shooting and melee. The CT is the trigger.

Zippee in your reply in both circumstances you state 'that fails the test'. Did you mean to say 'that passes the test'.

Re your 1st para 'do all units taking a cohesion test receive an additional loss due to accumulation of disorder, or only the units which pass their cohesion test ?' its only those that that pass their CT. So if not already disordered become disordered if already disordered lose 1 VBU.
If fail CT if not already disordered become so and take loss of VBU by the number you failed by but no further loss if already disordered. In reality the -1 applied to the CT for disorder is already giving you a loss for disorder if you fail the CT. Any more would be a double wammy.

Thank you for your answers, and especially for pointing out this subtle point about the "double wammy". Now everthing seems clear!