ZOC violation

In melee unit of T was forced to retreat 1H the unit of T won the iniative and fired so the range was exactly 1H. The unit fired upon wanted to react because ZOC violated. Rules say in Zoc to react so is 1H treated as in Zoc on the night we said no is that right. Thanks eric

A unit of romans not disordered had previously taken shooting casualties so was worn was charged by a unit of FP. Can sée in last paragraph 6.4 that the worn status means you dont get the +1 on first round of melee but does not affect the number of dice for pilm ie 4 is thos correct. Taking it to extreme a non disordered unit could have taķen more shooting casuaties and be down to VBU of 1 and still get 4 dice for pilum being 4 times as many as it would get from melee. If ive missed something my apologies. Etic

I meant to refer to 6.6 not 6.4 sorry. Ive inadvertently adked 2 seperate questions unfet one heading they ate obviously unrelated.

Hi Eric
       I'm sure I read on one of the early posts that Pilum armed troops don't lose the +1 until exhausted not just worn.
                  Not that this info really answers any of your questions  

Roundie

With respect to the ZOC 1H is 1H. In your example, if I understood correctly, the unit wanting to react could react.

Roundie is correct. Lorenzo has already let us know that Pilum/PBW bonus +1 is only lost when the unit is exhausted. The possibility of a unit losing its bonus before throwing its PBW dice is a possibility but not a very common event.

Thanks for response roundie and gaius. The +1 in first round of melee for pilum troops ok with i just couldnt get my head round if undisorded and down to VBU of 1 thet still get +4 dice for pilum if chargef. Is that right when on verge of breaking. Eric

the +4 dice are only one shot. The +1 in melee until exhausted.

Thanks Lorenzo so legionaries only have pbw once in game didnt see that in rule book so willwrote it in. Eric

It isn't clearly stated in Impetus 2 which is why you missed it. The Impetus 2 Guide is where PBW is clarified.

http://www.dadiepiombo.it/pdf/guideI2.pdf

Thats helpful also resolved another couple of poins