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Post by arthurpendragon Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:28 pm

Just wondering if anyone can talk me through the combat phase. I think it goes like this...

A unit of Hastatii clashes with a unit of CM (Italians) with a VBU of 4

The Hastatii add two dice for an impetus bonus and roll 8 dice. They score 3 hits

The Italians become disordered and have to take a test. Their VBU is 4 so thats a 1 to pass. but a 1 is a automatic fail so does that mean they are routed?

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Post by Zippee Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:03 pm

Not quite I'm afraid.

The disorder is not applied before the Cohesion Test (CT).

The CM have to roll 4 minus 3 or 1 on the CT but a 1 is an auto PASS in any case

As such they take no losses on a roll of 1. They stay in combat but are disordered because they took hits (not losses).

If they had rolled a 3 on the CT that would be 2 more than the required 1 so they would take 2 losses to their VBU and be forced to retest disordered as they list the melee (took more losses than they enemy).

Had they rolled a 6 (an auto FAIL) that would be 5 more than 1 so they would lose all their VBU and be destroyed (removed).


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Post by Roundie Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:53 pm

Infantry don't get impetus bonus when charging cavalry
(7.4).....I believe, but could be worry as I'm also new to the game myself
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Post by Tartty Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:45 pm

Roundie wrote:Infantry don't get impetus bonus when charging cavalry
(7.4).....I believe, but could be worry as I'm also new to the game myself

Yep bang on the money Roundie infantry lose their impetus agains't mounted....you'll be a veteran at this in no time Very Happy Think Zippee was just describing the process more than anything Smile
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Post by Zippee Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:14 am

Bang on correct, as I'm on holiday basking by a pool I just walked through the general process - I don't have the rules so wanted to avoid particular details such as bonuses and modifiers just in case I made a silly error.
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