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Post by kenntak Sat May 08, 2021 7:28 pm

The rules on movement to the rear state that a failure of the discipline test after the second or subsequent move prevents further movement. However, the rules do not state that a failure of the DT causes disorder. They also do not state that there is a modifier to the DT, like the progressive +1 for marching for each result after the second move. For some troops (mounted, non-impetuous FL and skirmishers), moving backwards multiple times seems easier than moving forward. Is that the intent?
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Post by jorneto Sat May 08, 2021 8:39 pm

The progressive +1 is a general modifier that is always applied from the second move (see 5.1).

Also note that disordered S, CL and CM can do one move backwards only - disordered troops cannot march.

You might want to check the movement chart in the alternate QRS. It shows all the possibilities.

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Post by kenntak Sat May 08, 2021 10:05 pm

Thanks again Jorneto. I missed that the progressive +1 modifier is a general modifier.
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Post by Gaius Cassius Sun May 09, 2021 3:34 am

I do agree kenntak that the phrasing of the rules is a bit misleading in 5.3.3 for units that are capable of multiple backward moves. Nonetheless, the principle of multiple moves is still the same as Jorneto suggests and a DT failure from multiple movement to the rear produces disorder.
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