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Post by Eques Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:34 am

What happens if Impetuous troops run into the rear of friends who are already engaged in melee to their front? Do they still burst through??

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Post by Gaius Cassius Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:10 pm

5.11.1 says that "You cannot interpenetrate an enemy Unit or a Unit that is in melee."

Unlike Impetus in Impetus 2 impetuous units are no longer "out of control" so presumably you wouldn't need to jam them up behind friendly units like in Impetus.
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Post by Eques Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:31 pm

Gaius Cassius wrote:

Unlike Impetus in Impetus 2 impetuous units are no longer "out of control" so presumably you wouldn't need to jam them up behind friendly units like in Impetus.

What makes them Impetuous then??

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Post by Gaius Cassius Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:40 pm

Only the Frenzy Test from what I can see.
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Post by stecal Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:30 pm

Impetuous troops are due for a points increase. There are very few downsides right now.

At a minimum they should be required to always take the additional charge distance and risk disorder and to always pursue. Neither is true right now.

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Post by Roundie Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:42 am

They can re-roll both their bonus charge and pursuit moves.
They can automatically charge even if disordered in ZOC reaction.
And they can only do rash interpenetration charges not maneuvered charges.
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Post by Eques Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am

stecal wrote:Impetuous troops are due for a points increase.  There are very few downsides right now.  

At a minimum they should be required to always take the additional charge distance and risk disorder and to always pursue.  Neither is true right now.

This is the trouble with rules revisions in general - they pay too much heed to players moaning because they don't like having to deal with any disadvantages.

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Post by dadiepiombo Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:31 pm

Impetuous troops work in a different way now. In the old version they could be pretty flexible (and cheap) troops in the hands of expert players.

Now they are indisciplined troops that can fail a coordinated attack and in most cases need a General attached. On the other hand they keep some free advantages as pointed out by Roundie.
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