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Warfare battle of Cunaxa

Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:26 pm by ejc

Sorry for short notice we are putting on the above scenario on Saturday 11th …

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Ilipa 206BC Society of Ancients Battle Day

Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:54 pm by ejc

This year's SOA Battle Day is Ilipa206BC will be about a dozen games all re …

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SELWG 2023 Thapsus 46BC

Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:29 pm by ejc

We will putting on the above game at SELG 2023 on Sunday 15th October. Forum …

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Colours 2023

Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:14 pm by ejc

Sorry for very short notice. We are putting on a game at colours on Saturday …

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Salute 2023

Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:49 pm by jorneto

Any Impetus games in this event?

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Society of Ancients Battle Day

Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:15 pm by ejc

Sorry for the short notice.
Our group is attending this event in Newbury on …

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Post by Sun of York Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:29 pm

On page 9 it says exhausted troops can't react.

On page 24 it says that a unit that has its ZOC violated can always react. Is it correct to assume that the rule on page 9 takes precedence? That an exhausted unit that has its ZOC violated can not react?
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Post by Gaius Cassius Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:19 am

Also, commands that are demoralized cannot engage in reactions either.

We play it as you suggest, exhausted units do not react to ZOC violations.
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Post by dadiepiombo Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:31 am

Exhausted Units cannot react in any situation, including for ZoC violation.
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Post by ejc Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:22 pm

Does this mean large units with an exhausted rear unit cannot react because you say 'Exhausted units cannot react in any situation'. I know the test will be for the modifiers of the front unit but if counter charge successful the exhausted rear rank would also have to go forward as part of the reaction. We play it that you can react with a large unit where the rear unit is exhausted.

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Post by Gaius Cassius Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:56 pm

A Large Unit is exhausted when the front unit is exhausted
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Post by ejc Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:27 pm

So if just the back rank of T has taken hits it can stil teact say with defensive rire as long as the front ubit is not exhausted? Regards eric

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Post by ejc Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:45 pm

Meant to add any losses on rear T behind say spear ignore losses as long as front rank not exhausted which wont happen until T destroyed.

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Post by Gaius Cassius Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:58 pm

It doesn't specifically state this in 2.6.2 but I am very confident that exhaustion follows the same principle as loss of impetus etc. found in this section. So, yes the T unit will be gone before the FP is exhausted. As Lorenzo has mentioned in the past imagine the archers in the back stand frittering away in the tension of the battle rather than hard losses. It reflects more a failure of morale than actual dead men.
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Post by dadiepiombo Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:59 am

yes, as Gaius says
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