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Post by Geoffrm Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:48 am

Hi,
Two questions.
In the Swiss list it says that Halbards cancel the impetus bonus of mounted. Does this apply to the Halbard in other lists?
If you charge and contact only with your front corner do you stay in that position and does your opponent get an overlap if he is part of a line?

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Post by Gaius Cassius Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:33 am

Geoffrm wrote:
In the Swiss list it says that Halbards cancel the impetus bonus of mounted.  Does this apply to the Halbard in other lists?

Only if the list says so otherwise no.


Geoffrm wrote:Hi,
If you charge and contact only with your front corner do you stay in that position and does your opponent get an overlap if he is part of a line?
Regards Geoff

Not sure what you are describing but it all depends on whether the units are in contact. If there is contact there is an overlap.
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Post by dadiepiombo Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:59 am

for the second question (if I have visualized correctly)
You have a melee only with the Unit you are in contact.
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Post by Geoffrm Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:14 am

In the melee a unit of knights charged the centre unit of a three unit line and contacted the centre unit with its front corner. We fought it as a single unit melee. In the rules page 40 7.73 point 2 it says if frontal contact "at an angle" then you consider the projection of the front, caculated perpendicularly to the Enemy Units front.

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Post by Gaius Cassius Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:19 am

Sounds like you did it correctly.
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Post by Geoffrm Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:43 am

Are you sure? The rules indicate you project the front forward so that you can work out which is the Main unit and which is the Supporting unit.

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Post by RogerC Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:47 pm

As Lorenzo says, only units in contact can melee. Overlaps which do not make contact have no effect on the melee. There is no 'overlap bonus'.

The rules about projecting the front are for determining which one of multiple units in contact is the main unit. You need to know that as supporting units halve their dice, and only the main unit takes casualties.

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Post by Gaius Cassius Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:09 pm

A picture would help but as RogerC says projection is used only to determine main and support units. Without contact projecting the front of unit doesn't matter in Impetus.
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