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Post by stecal on Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:58 pm

I think the rules for veteran and elite need to be rethought. Negating hits in all cases is just too powerful. Perhaps negate 1 hit only when fresh or negate the 1 hit AFTER the cohesion test?

I had a problem today in a melee with 2 beatup veteran units fighting each other. With only 2-4 dice each, a single hit is often the best you can do, but with the hit negation the melee just keeps ending in draws

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Post by stecal on Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:35 pm

After 2 games we have come to the conclusion that the veteran & elite rules are not working. They just break too many parts of the fire, melee & CT game mechanisms.

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Post by dadiepiombo on Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:11 pm

ok, thank you for feedback.

Well they are powerful, but consider
1) they are in limited numbers
2) they have the same VBU of less trained troops, or better, less trained troops can benefit of the same VBU of veterans as too low VBU would make them not enough string to sustain melees.
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Post by dadiepiombo on Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:19 pm

stecal wrote:I had a problem today in a melee with 2 beatup veteran units fighting each other. With only 2-4 dice each, a single hit is often the best you can do, but with the hit negation the melee just keeps ending in draws

One option could be that the rule for Veteran/Elite doesn't work if Veteran/Elite is firing or in melee. I mean in case of 2 Veterans in melee or a Veteran shot at by another Veteran, then no bonus.
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Post by stecal on Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:17 pm

Well half the Zulu list is veteran.


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