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Post by klingula Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:59 pm

There are such types of Medium Cavalry:
CM 6 2 B 3 Comp. bow C 32
16.1 Mamluks, 16.2 Nobles and Elite, Ghilman, 16.4 Mamluks, 16.7 Ghilman, 16.15 Laz or Tzan Cavalry 21.3 Cavalry
and also such:
CM 6 2 B 2 Comp. bow C 32
16.5 Cavalry, 16.6 Ghilman, 16.11 Mamluks, 21.2 Cavalry, 21.4 Cavalry
Which value is correct?
I also have doubts about the following detachments. Unfortunately, I do not know the algorithm for calculating VD and perhaps I'm worried for nothing
16.3 Latinikon CP2 6 3 B 2 30
16.4 Ghilman Lancers CM 6 3 B 3 30
16.14 Stratiatai CM 6 3 B 2 30

16.6 European Mercenaries CP1 6 4 C 2 Impetuous 23
17.1 Nobles CP2 6 3 C 3 Impetuous 24

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Post by jorneto Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:34 pm

In General the rule for VD is:
VD=3: VBU7 or higher; Higher VBU in the list
VD=2: VBU6; VBU5; CL with VBU 4
VD=1: VBU4; VBU3; VBU2; VBU1
VD=0: CF, Bomb

But there are several exceptions.

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Post by klingula Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:10 pm

You confused me even more. More detailed comments seem to be needed. I looked at some lists from Warbook 2. There are also many examples of different types of cavalry with VB6 and with VD 2 or 3

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Post by jorneto Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:53 pm

If 6 is the highest VBU value in the list then the VBU 6 unit gets a VD=3.
But if there are VBU's of 7 or higher then the VBU 6 unit gets a VD=2.

See for example list 16.4 for the first case. The Mamluks and the Guilman Lancers with VBU 6 are the highest VBU units in the list. They get VD=3

In list 16.3. as there is Latinikon with VBU 7, the VBU 6 units (Varangians and lower grade Latinikon) now only get VD=2.

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Post by klingula Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:23 pm

Very interesting, thanks for the explanation, now the situation has cleared up.
It seems I was worried for nothing Very Happy

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