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Post by ejc Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:37 pm

Good to be back at shows. Thank you to those who came for a chat. Excellent game with similar outcome to history. Brief resume as follows:-
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ROMAN 604 Points
Centre:- CNC Sempronius (reliable), 3LU (Has./Prin.) A class, 2 Triarii A, 1 Velite
Left Flank - S/G Paulus (Poor) 2LU (Has./Prin.) B Class, 1Triarii A, 1 Velite, 2 Roman cavalry CM
Right Flank - S/G Scipio the Elder (poor), 2LU (Has./Prin.) B Class, 1Triarii A, 1 Velite, 1 LU FP Gallic warriors, 1 Roman Cavalry CM.
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CARTHIGINIANS 622 Points
Centre - S/G Hasdrubal, 3LU Libyan Spearman, 2 S javelins, 1 S slinger
Left Flank - C-N-C Hannibal (Genius), 2 LU FL Gallic warriors, 1 Elephant, 1 S javelin, 3 CM Gallic & Spanish, 1 CL Tarantine
Right Flank S/G Marahabal (Reliable), 4 FL Scutarii PBW (fighting in 2 ranks), 1 S javelin, 2 CM Cartiginians, 1 CL Tarantine
Flank Attack - S/G Mago (Expert CC) 2CL Numidian ( note no S used for this command)
ROMAN battle plan
The A class centre command to attack asap supported by the LU's of HAS./Prin. of flank commands to break Carth. centre and infict sufficient damage to Carth. flank commands to cause the Carth. army to rout. The Roman flank cavalry to hold back and with the support of the Triarii of the flank commands to move to support cavalry and be as annoying as possible to the expected heavy attacks by Carth. cavalry.
CARTHIGINIAN battle Plan
Centre to hold in place and wait for support from expected success from cavalry flank attacks supported along with Mago's flank attack on roman left flank and then defeat the romans. After turn 1 on a roll of 8+ Mago would appear. He failed that roll but on turn 2 he was to appear on a roll of 7. he did so.
THE BATTLE in brief:-
the roman centre attacked but on turn 2 did a double move with an attached general so to avoid disorder needed any thing but a 1 and that's what I rolled. The Libyian spearman decided to do a double move and charge they passed there DT and the romans failed to counter charge. The Carth. gained the upper hand. The rear units on both sides lost there rear units by the end of turn 4 but the roman front units had sustained significantly more damage than the Libyians. There was now a gap between the 2 lines and the 2 triarii units at the rear charged interpenetrating the remaining front units and finally destroyed the Carth. centre at the cost of 1 Triarii routing.

Although on turn 5 the Carth. centre broke at the start of that turn all roman commands had lost a third. On turn 5 the roman left flank broke and with the other losses the army routed. The roman left flank started well beating off the initial attack by Mago attached to a CL unit who managed to attack a roman CM in the flank, Mago nearly died he rolled a 6 for his DT but survived the 2nd roll. That was the high water mark for the roman left flank on its next initiative it rolled a double 1 so dropped to incompetent and had to miss a turn, that was the critical point the romans who lost the chance to manoeuvre into a better position so the CM again caught in flank. The CM were eventually destroyed but the end for this flank came when its 2 LU of Hast./Prin. charged into the double ranked Scutarii FL with PBW who counter charged and virtually destroyed the romans. As both were charging the scutarii had slightly more dice for PBW and made it pay and repulsed the romans with heavy losses. The scutarii didn't pursue but when activated charged their 2nd rank into the romans their PBW caused damage and in the following melee and pursuits did sufficient damage to rout the roman left flank and as the other 2 roman commands had taken heavy losses the army broke.
It was very close as the Carth. centre had broken and its left flank Hannibal's command was only 1VD from breaking at the end of turn 5 so very nearly a draw.

Will post a few photo's soon. Eric

NEXT SHOW Salute 2021 Saturday 13th Nov ExCel centre London. Look forward to meeting any of you. Join in if you wish.

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Post by kenntak Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:48 pm

Great report on a closely matched game.
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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:22 am

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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:27 am

1st picture shows deployment Romans on the left. You can see Carth,
2d picture Libyian Spearmen in the centre.

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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:28 am

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Roman Centre attacking

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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:33 am

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Another view of Roman Attack. Can see refused flank in the distance that was subsequently attacked.

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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:42 am

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View from behind Carth. centre most rear units of both sides destroyed just prior to the attack of the Triarii. This is where the FP interpenetrating rule helped the romans. As a side issue wonder how the game would have gone if romans used single units in 2 lines rather than LU.

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Post by ejc Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:08 am

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The end of the roman left flank and army. in the foreground you can see Mago with 2 Libyan LC followed by unit of Tarantine LC having just defeated the roman cavalry skirting round the still defending Triarii. further back in the picture you can see the remains of the left flank Has./Piinc. that have just been defeated by Spanish with BBW.


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2 of the victorious carthiginian generals

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Post by Gaius Cassius Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:50 pm

Great looking game. I really enjoy seeing other people's collections on the table top. Thanks for showing.
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Post by ejc Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:14 pm

Thanks Gaius. Hopefully you will be back at shows in canada when you feel safe to do so and we can see your armies in action again.

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Post by Atheling Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:39 am

A very beautiful looking game I love you

Have you got any close ups of the units please?

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Post by dadiepiombo Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:38 am

Great!
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Post by ejc Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:07 pm

Hello Atheling will take a few photos of some units will put on sight in a few days time

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Post by Atheling Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:21 pm

ejc wrote:Hello Atheling will take a few photos of some units will put on sight in a few days time

Fab, I'd love to see them Cool

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Post by ejc Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:56 pm

Atheling photos a bit dark will try and get better pics and piy on.

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Post by Atheling Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:06 pm

ejc wrote:Atheling photos a bit dark will try and get better pics and piy on.

The image above looks fine. Maybe a little more contrast?

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Post by ejc Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:01 pm

The following photos are from the Trebia game Mark provided the Carthiginians he hand painted all the shields on the Spanish Italians Gauls. The one of the carthiginian spearmen were transfers he tarted up but painted the officers this is small sample. I painted the romans will put a few on a bit later

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