Latest topics
» A few questions on large units, pilums and multiple melees
Accumulation of disorder EmptyTue May 21, 2019 2:06 pm by Gaius Cassius

» Interpenetration and Displacement
Accumulation of disorder EmptyFri May 17, 2019 6:19 pm by RogerC

» Measurement Question In Basic Impetus 2.0
Accumulation of disorder EmptyFri May 17, 2019 5:46 pm by Zombiefy

» Base Depth: 40mm vs 60mm for FP and FL?
Accumulation of disorder EmptyThu May 16, 2019 2:31 pm by Gaius Cassius

» Battle of Harzhorn Salute 2019
Accumulation of disorder EmptySun May 12, 2019 5:24 pm by Marcus Aurelius MD

» The Illiad = The Wrath of Achilles
Accumulation of disorder EmptyThu May 09, 2019 8:04 pm by ejc

» Charges/ counter chares
Accumulation of disorder EmptyWed May 08, 2019 2:32 pm by dadiepiombo

» Can a general move with a unit after attaching same turn
Accumulation of disorder EmptyWed May 08, 2019 2:23 pm by dadiepiombo

» Byzantine 28mm
Accumulation of disorder EmptyMon May 06, 2019 5:38 pm by stecal

Battle of Harzhorn Salute 2019

Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:13 pm by ejc

Our group is putting on the above at the EXcell Centre London being the SAlute …

Comments: 14

The Illiad = The Wrath of Achilles

Thu May 09, 2019 12:41 pm by ejc

We will be putting this game on at one of the Autumn shorws probably Colours or …

Comments: 1

The Battle of Apamea at Hotlead

Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:50 am by Gaius Cassius

Hotlead is Canada's leading Miniature Wargames Convention. It is held in 2019 …

Comments: 2

BI2 tournament - 12 May 2018 - CANCELLED

Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:26 am by RogerC

EDIT I am very sorry, but I’ve had to CANCEL this tournament. I’ve …

Comments: 9

Vapnartak. Sunday 4th February 2018 Knavesmere Stand York Racecourse

Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:54 am by Cyrus The Adequate

Hi Gents

York is the usual first event in the UK Impetus calendar. This year …

Comments: 28

Basic Impetus 2 Comp, January 2018?

Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:03 am by Aurelius

I've brought the confirmed details for the Basic Impetus competition to the …

Comments: 32

May 2019
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
  12345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
2728293031  

Calendar Calendar


Accumulation of disorder

Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Accumulation of disorder

Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Hi,

If a unit that was disordered fails a cohesion test due to firing damage and gets permanent losses in his VBU, it loses 1 VBU in addition due to accumulation of disorder, like in melee and Impetus?

Hannibaal_Barca
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 8
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2016-02-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Scruff on Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:14 am

Ill have to double check my poor old brain,

but if you take a permanent loss you never take an additional loss to disorder on disorder but if you dont take a loss and you get a disorder result while disordered then you take a loss.

Scruff
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 20
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2016-01-01

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Zippee on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:35 am

If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
Zippee
Zippee
VBU 5
VBU 5

Posts : 611
Reputation : 12
Join date : 2014-05-19
Age : 55
Location : Lincolnshire, UK

View user profile https://www.flickr.com/photos/zippee/sets/

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:07 pm

Zippee wrote:If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
Ok, but only for firing damage?. In melee the unit always lose a point due to accumulated disorder, it's correct?

Hannibaal_Barca
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 8
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2016-02-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Lemurcat on Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:40 pm

HB,
No that's not correct. It does not matter if you are in melee or shot at. If you are disordered and pass your cohesion test, you suffer one point of damage to VBU.

If you fail your cohesion test, you suffer that many points of damage to VBU.

Hope that helps.

Lemurcat
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 4
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2016-12-16
Location : United States of America

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Zippee on Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:26 pm

Hannibaal_Barca wrote:
Zippee wrote:If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
Ok, but only for firing damage?. In melee the unit always lose a point due to accumulated disorder, it's correct?

No it applies to both melee and ranged - the only mechanical difference between melee and ranged combat (other than the factors and modifiers) is that in melee you can be forced to retreat and thus can trigger a pursuit. And the fact that both sides are at risk.
Zippee
Zippee
VBU 5
VBU 5

Posts : 611
Reputation : 12
Join date : 2014-05-19
Age : 55
Location : Lincolnshire, UK

View user profile https://www.flickr.com/photos/zippee/sets/

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:40 pm

Thank you for your answers.

Hannibaal_Barca
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 8
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2016-02-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Accumulation of disorder Empty Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum