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Post by Jim Webster on Tue May 03, 2016 1:29 pm

A mate of mine has come up with this army list


Max/Min Covenanters in England
Type MV VB I D VD Notes Pts No. Points VDT
2-6 TR Horse 2 5 1 B 2 PBP 39 3 117 6
0-2 TR Lancers 2 4 3 B 2 Lance 35 1 35 2
4-12 PM Foote 1 6 2 B 3 Pike, Musket (SM -2) 62 4 248 12
or PM Recruits 1 5 1 C 2 Pike, Musket (SM -2) 47 2 94 4
0-2 DR Dragoons 2 5 1 B 2 Musket (SM -1) 55 1 55 2
0-1 S Forlorn Hope 2 3 0 B 2 Musket 43 1 43 2
0-1 ART Field Gun 1 1 0 B 1 Art B 15 1 15 1
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Post by yorkie on Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:04 pm

how would you factor in the frame guns for the Covenanters? Regimental guns?
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Post by Jim Webster on Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:27 pm

yorkie wrote:how would you factor in the frame guns for the Covenanters? Regimental guns?

I think that seems as sensible a way of doing it as any.

From George Gush. Renaissance Armies

"As usual there was a strong train of artillery, which in 1644 had: six Demi-cannon, one Culverin, three Quarter cannon, 54 Demi-culverin, three Iror pieces and 88 "Frames" (these were very light guns for infantry support, the brainchildren of the famous Scots artillerist "Sandy" Hamilton, who had served Gustavus Adolphus. He had invented an ultra-light 12 pounder gun, three feet long, which could be carried by one horse, and also some kind of multi-barrel infantry support weapon on a wheel-barrow-like mounting. The "frames" could well be these, or light field pieces like those used by Gustavus; their number makes it seem likely that about four were attached to each infantry regiment.)."
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Post by yorkie on Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:23 pm

So in a covenanter army, add in maybe 50% of the foot P&M may take frame guns (regimental guns) for 4 pts ? or even all of them?

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Post by Jim Webster on Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:43 am

I'm not sure how many frame guns the 'second line' Covenanter armies had (for example those that fought against Montrose)
Reading about Montrose's battles you rarely hear of artillery mentioned on either side

So I'd say that the sensible options seem to be none, or issued to all regular regiments, (so newly raised and militia wouldn't have them) .

I'm not sure how long they lasted, I've found no mention of them at the Battle of Dunbar

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Post by yorkie on Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:43 am

That sounds about right. I think we will allow them to all the regular P&S units, it makes the army a bit more interesting and adds a different option compared to the regular English regiments. We are working towards Marston moor. Thanks for the help.
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Post by dadiepiombo on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:34 am

once you have "fixed" this list, please send me the draft so I can check and upload as a beta.
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Post by paulbgau on Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:55 am

I like the Dragoons as
DR Dragoons 2 5 1 B 2 Musket (SM -1) 55

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