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Post by robh on Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:04 am

Is this project still going to happen? If so what timescale now (realistic).

Also please re-activate the old links to the rules and points list.

dadiepiombo.com/bifendef.pdf and dadiepiombo.com/bipts-eng.pdf

Or place the files somewhere accessible. I sent a couple of interested new players the rule links yesterday but they are dead currently.

Since GW announced the "new Warhammer" fantasy gamers are looking for a replacement option.

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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:44 pm

I'm going to upload the file on Wargames Vault (free download)
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:04 pm

the full (and official) Fantasy version will be released after Impetus 2 as will share the same concepts, but I'm considering to make and official fantasy version for Basic Impetus.
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by robh on Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:36 pm

I think a Fantasy version based on Basic Impetus should actually be the first one done, likely to entice more players to give it a try.
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by Zippee on Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:08 pm

Any progress on the (Official) Basic Fantasy Rules?
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:59 am

We have started to develop the fantasy version of Lords&Servats with the idea of sharing some concepts.
One of the playtester has developped some more idea for that could work for Basic Impetus as well. But at the moment I have many other thing to complete that are in a more advanced stage
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Post by Squeakeasy on Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:13 am

so no fantasy impetus this year do you think?
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:20 am

well, as a stand alone book not. But with the release of the new Basic Impetus, maybe I can make a pdf with some extra rules to be adapted for fantasy and few lists. But not before fall.
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by Squeakeasy on Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:26 am

Sad news, but understandable, you'll have a much better idea about what the wargamers out there are clambering for.

I assumed there would be a bit of a gap in the market for a mass fantasy battle set? Skirmish sets are released every 2nd Tuesday; Warhammer not even pretending to be a fantasy battle game any more, and no other major rule writer (with the exception of Mantic Games) currently pushing anything.
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Post by Squeakeasy on Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:28 am

Just to clarify - only meant 'sad news' because I'd convinced myself Fantasy Impetus was imminent (though wasn't expecting a Baroque style publication).
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:54 am

well it is not just a question of what the market wants, but time to prepare a set. I'm not a fantasy player so for me it is harder. But also it means to have some fantasy figures to play with and last, but not least, the problem to have pictures of fantasy armies for the book, without haveing trouble of copyright etc.

All this slows down the making. But a free pdf to upgrade the new Basic Impetus version is not a huge task and a way to let more people to test.
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Post by Squeakeasy on Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:09 am

For the copyright concerns, is it the manufacturer, painter, or owner, that is important?
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:08 pm

for historical there are no problems. The owner of the figure is credited and the manufacturer is only happy to be in the rules as it is free advertising.

But for the fantasy or for games where rules and miniatures are linked, you can get problems. If I use GW figures, for sure I could have problems.
Once I asked to a Sci Fi miniature manufactures to use their figs to illustrate Koncordia, but the owner told me he had linked his figs to another game.
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Post by Zippee on Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:35 pm

Ok I rather thought that this
dadiepiombo wrote:the full (and official) Fantasy version will be released after Impetus 2 as will share the same concepts, but I'm considering to make and official fantasy version for Basic Impetus.

Meant that we might see a Basic Fantasy before Impetus II

dadiepiombo wrote:We have started to develop the fantasy version of Lords&Servats with the idea of sharing some concepts.
One of the playtester has developped some more idea for that could work for Basic Impetus as well. But at the moment I have many other thing to complete that are in a more advanced stage

Appreciate you have many things to work on these days but surely an official fantasy BI isn't a huge development task - the existing one is almost there it just needs confirmation on basing formats and structure. I'd certainly expect the fantasy family to follow on the coat tails of Historical Impetus so wouldn't expect anything upgraded more than the fantasy version of current BI.

For me I'm very reluctant to base and commit to the structure presented in the existing version. In the same way I wasn't prepared to base for the development version of Baroque in case things changed. You may be undervaluing the value of the "official" tag IMO.


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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by robh on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:30 pm

OK, so a year and a half later......what is the current status of the Fantasy mass battle rules?

Which ruleset have you decided to base them on; Impetus, Impetus 2 or Basic Impetus 2 or are they a stand alone game?
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by robh on Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:38 pm

........and another year passes, without the rules or an answer to the question.

Please, is this going to happen (soon? ever?) or should we all be looking at other Fantasy Wargame options now?
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by dadiepiombo on Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:44 pm

sorry. Not a priority a the momen, too many things to follow. I know that someone is developping something based on Basic Impetus 2. There is a facebook group.
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Re: Current position regarding Impetus Fantasy?

Post by robh on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:37 pm

Sad news, but at least the position is clear now.
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