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Warfare battle of Cunaxa

Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:26 pm by ejc

Sorry for short notice we are putting on the above scenario on Saturday 11th …

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Ilipa 206BC Society of Ancients Battle Day

Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:54 pm by ejc

This year's SOA Battle Day is Ilipa206BC will be about a dozen games all re …

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We will putting on the above game at SELG 2023 on Sunday 15th October. Forum …

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Any Impetus games in this event?

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Sorry for the short notice.
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Post by tico Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:48 pm

Would people rather go for quality (VBU: 4, Discipline: B) or quantity (VBU: 3, Discipline: C) for Indian archers? After some contemplation I thought that better discipline and VBU 4 would be better bet against Macedonians, but now I started to doubt it because the cost difference is quite hefty (essentially have three with price of two).
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Post by Gaius Cassius Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:58 pm

The best value in Impetus is the shift from VBU 3 to 4. For only 2 extra points the troops get a huge lift in ability. But as you say in the Indian list the VBU4 troops also have better discipline making the differential greater. But overall I'd go with the better troops in this case. VBU 4 T troops with Longbow B can extend their effect into long range making it possible to disrupt infantry.
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Post by spock Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:27 pm

hello,
of experience when I'm playing Indian, I prefer to take the archers with VBU 4 and discipline B because it makes them more efficient in shooting distance. and close they are very dangerous and a descipline B will be more mobile.
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Post by tico Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:36 pm

Thanks for your responses. I had similar reasoning so my army - whenever I have sufficient time to paint it up, will be mainly elephants, better archers few swordmen and some rather lousy medium cavalry.
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Post by Gaius Cassius Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:31 pm

The Elephants are powerful but it also makes the Indian army brittle with them having VD3. You only need to lose a few and the battle is over.
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Post by Tartty Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:38 am

Gaius Cassius wrote:The Elephants are powerful but it also makes the Indian army brittle with them having VD3. You only need to lose a few and the battle is over.
Very true.
I've seen the cheaper VBU3 Ts used as screeners for the elephants ..... quiet effective and pretty good bang for your buck really when used like that.
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Post by Jim Webster Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:04 pm

Indian armies do seem to have had a lot of rubbish infantry.
Porus left his with a few elephants guarding the river when the rest of the army turned to face Alexander. So I think it's perfectly reasonable to have both VBU 4 and VBU 3 archers in the same army
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