impetus
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Latest topics
» Warfare battle of Cunaxa
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyYesterday at 3:51 pm by ejc

» Errata updated
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyYesterday at 8:39 am by dadiepiombo

» Mamluks in Ayyubids Egyptians
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyFri Feb 09, 2024 11:43 am by Robert Gargan

» Army Scale in Creating Scenarios
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyFri Jan 19, 2024 7:51 am by kenntak

» Army Builder Issue
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyTue Jan 09, 2024 9:59 am by jorneto

» Scottish Wars of Independence
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyMon Jan 08, 2024 6:41 pm by archibald the grim

» Hoplites equipped with Hoplon
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptyMon Jan 08, 2024 3:57 pm by kenntak

» Depth Bonus in Mixed Large Units
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptySun Jan 07, 2024 1:55 am by ejc

» Looking for players in central Florida, USA
Are Legionaries Overpriced? EmptySat Jan 06, 2024 11:18 pm by Noss Calavera

Warfare battle of Cunaxa

Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:26 pm by ejc

Sorry for short notice we are putting on the above scenario on Saturday 11th …

Comments: 3

SELWG 2023 Thapsus 46BC

Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:29 pm by ejc

We will putting on the above game at SELG 2023 on Sunday 15th October. Forum …

Comments: 6

Colours 2023

Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:14 pm by ejc

Sorry for very short notice. We are putting on a game at colours on Saturday …

Comments: 0

Salute 2023

Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:49 pm by jorneto

Any Impetus games in this event?

Comments: 10

Society of Ancients Battle Day

Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:15 pm by ejc

Sorry for the short notice.
Our group is attending this event in Newbury on …

Comments: 3

Warfare 2022 Battle of Asculum

Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:55 pm by ejc

We are putting on battle of Asculum at warfare on behalf of the Society of …

Comments: 1

March 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
25262728293031

Calendar Calendar


Are Legionaries Overpriced?

3 posters

Go down

Are Legionaries Overpriced? Empty Are Legionaries Overpriced?

Post by Eques Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:10 pm

To my untrained eye (haven't played a full game yet) Legionaries seem very overpriced.

They cost, for example, over twice the amount of army points as Warband, and for that you get a VDU advantage of +2, and Pilum, but less Impetus.

Is the VDU advantage really worth 16 army points???

Eques
VBU 2
VBU 2

Posts : 57
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2017-12-08

Back to top Go down

Are Legionaries Overpriced? Empty Re: Are Legionaries Overpriced?

Post by stecal Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:54 pm

Yes, Roman Legions just slaughter large units of impetous warband.

stecal
VBU 3
VBU 3

Posts : 233
Reputation : 3
Join date : 2015-02-06
Location : Philadelphia, PA USA

Back to top Go down

Are Legionaries Overpriced? Empty Re: Are Legionaries Overpriced?

Post by Gaius Cassius Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:38 pm

We have generally found that the Legion units are a bit overpriced. If you compare a large warband with an upgraded front unit at 25 points versus a typical 6/2 legion at 28 points I would tend to favour the former over the later. The advantage of a large unit overcomes the better quality legion unit. But there are so many variables that it is very difficult to made a definitive statement. We tend to normally double move warbands in on the Legions to guarantee the impetus dice but that seriously risks them going disordered for melee. The pilum produces another variable. A hit can unhinge the warband unit. It is amazing how fast the back stand of a warband can disappear. Should the Legion unit take a number of hits in combat and then roll a poor CT it is very hard for it to recover. So we see a wide range of outcomes.
Gaius Cassius
Gaius Cassius
VBU 7 h.c.
VBU 7 h.c.

Posts : 1243
Reputation : 43
Join date : 2014-05-20
Location : Guelph, Ontario, Canada

Back to top Go down

Are Legionaries Overpriced? Empty Re: Are Legionaries Overpriced?

Post by stecal Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:05 pm

Hasn't been my experience. A clever roman players using artillery or skirmishers along with line relief just wrecks warbands, who almost never reach the Roman line undisordered and in a cohesive group.

Perhaps people forget the + 1 for each supported flank and the +1 die for better quality that gives the Romans much more dice than previous versions of the rules. Impetuous warbands can rely on having none of that as they must keep advancing, charging and pursuing.

stecal
VBU 3
VBU 3

Posts : 233
Reputation : 3
Join date : 2015-02-06
Location : Philadelphia, PA USA

Back to top Go down

Are Legionaries Overpriced? Empty Re: Are Legionaries Overpriced?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum